PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | Episode 3 – WELCOME TO OUR LADIES' LUNCHEON

Ep3picEpisode Three – Welcome to Our Ladies' Luncheon

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, From Our Home to Yours, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello lovely ladies. It's such a joy to be with you again today. Wherever you are, whatever you're doing in your home, this is from my home to yours.

Don't you love that song at the beginning? That song, “In That Home,” was written by my dear friend Michael Tait, who is the lead singer of the Newsboys. He wrote that song about his own mother who has now passed away. It was a tribute to her, and the home she created, and how it was always an open home. So many people, needy and hurting people, came into this home to find life and love and the Gospel of Jesus.

Well, I wonder what's been happening in your home since I spoke to you last. We've just had a continual round of birthdays, and a baby dedication, which is pretty normal in our large family of so many children, grandchildren, and now great-grandchildren coming along.

We also had a Ladies' Luncheon. Maybe I'll tell you a little bit about that. Perhaps, although we've already enjoyed it, I'll just bring you in to sit around our table with us, to catch up with the joy of this.

This was a Ladies' Luncheon, just in the family for my daughters, daughters-in-law, and close family around. \We do this about once a year because we all live such busy lives that we don't have time. We celebrate all the children's birthdays, but we often don't have time to celebrate our own birthdays with one another.

Of course, each wife enjoys her birthday with her husband and her family, but this is something we do together. So, we do it once a year, and okay, it's happy birthday to all of us.

Last Wednesday it was just nine of us sitting around my table here in our home. Three of the girls were missing. Two of my daughters-in-law were out of state. But each one brought a special dish, something lovely, usually a Trim Healthy Mama dish.

We sit around the table and as we're eating, we'll open it up for each one to share something. We're very big on sharing together because this is what makes a meal time. I'm a great believer in that food is not just eating food. Food is also sharing our hearts with one another. It's food and fellowship.

As one writer said that gathering round the table is “Eye to eye, face to face, table fellowship.” That's what makes a meal so beautiful.

So, we opened it up, and because we're all very talkative and outgoing, I usually have to be an umpire. We started to go around the table, not everybody talking when they like. So, we started with Pearl. Perhaps I'll just tell you a few of the things they shared, not everybody of course, or we'd be here all day!

Pearlie began to share just a few blessings, just basking in the blessings of God, in their new home. Many of you may know that just before Christmas last year, the home they were living in was burned to the ground. They lost absolutely everything that they owned, but praise the Lord, they were already in the process of building another home.

And so, they were able to move into that, and she was so enjoying it, loving it, and loving being a grandmother, entering into this new role of enjoying little Warren Charles, her eldest daughter, Meadow’s son.

Then we moved on to my sister Kate. Now I'm so blessed to have her living here. For many years, Kate and I hardly saw one another. We were in different countries of the world. I was back in New Zealand, moved to the Philippine Islands, back to New Zealand, then to Australian, and then we came to the States. She was living up in Canada. But eventually through circumstances, a few years back, she came to the States too.

Kate is a wonderful intercessor. She loves to pray. A number of years ago, God put on Kate's heart a burden to pray in the square in Franklin for revival. Now Franklin is our nearest, what would I call it, nearest yuppie city. Because we live out here in the woods in Primm Springs, and we have three little towns around us. In one direction, it's Dickson; in another direction, it's Centerville; and in another direction, it's Columbia. They're all about half an hour away.

But if we travel an hour, we'll get to Franklin. That's our favorite place to go. Kate lives nearer to Franklin. Way back, after the Civil War, there was a revival in the city of Franklin. And it happened through prayer. It happened through the prayers of E. M. Bounds, and other men praying with him.

E. M. Bounds is a man who was, he's no longer with us today; a man who loved to pray. In fact, I think he has written the most powerful books on prayer that have ever been written. If you have never read them, get hold of them. You can just get them off the internet.

Of course, I am a great believer in not so much reading about prayer, but actually praying. I believe that if you want to learn how to pray, you don't read books about how to pray, you pray! But if you want to be stirred up in the ministry of prayer, do read E. M. Bounds. He's just so challenging.

Kate read about the revival that happened in Franklin. She felt, oh my, we need another move of God, another revival in this city of Franklin. So, she began. She asked others to join with her. She has a few that join her each week. So, every single Friday lunchtime, she goes to the square in Franklin and prays for revival.

Kate has been faithful to do this year after year, rain or sunshine. There have been times when she was the only one who turned up. But she still prays. At one time she told me: “I was the only one that day. God put it on my heart not to stand there and pray in the square, but to actually kneel down.” She said, “I felt rather embarrassed, but I obeyed the Lord and knelt down, the only sole person, and cried out for revival in Franklin.”

Well, Kate's blessing was that just the other week, a lady turned up to pray with her. She said to her, “Kate, do you know that this is the anniversary of your praying in the square? It's the tenth anniversary. At this time, I want to join with you again today as we celebrate this anniversary of praying for ten years.”

Kate said she was just so blessed, because she hadn't counted the years. She had forgotten how many years she had been faithfully praying in the square. But she realized God has not forgotten. God has been counting the years, even when she hadn't been counting. She felt so blessed that God encouraged her. He was saying, “Kate, I've been counting the years. I've been watching you pray every week, rain, cold, or snow.”

She shared that encouragement. I know God is going to faithfully honor those prayers. We don't know how many more years she'll have to pray. Maybe it'll be a few months. Maybe it'll be more years. But God has heard those cries.

Who was speaking next? It was my sister-in-law, Judy, all the way from New Zealand. And that's why we had our luncheon this time, when Judy was visiting us, so she could be part of it. She's married to my only brother. His name is Grant. Of course, we say, “Grant,” (with the sound of “ant”) having come from New Zealand. I know that most Americans say “Grahnt,” but I can't get used to saying “Graant,” so of course I call him who he really is, “Grant.”

So, Judy began to share. She's here on her own, because, sadly, my brother is no longer able to travel. He's younger than me, but he has developed Parkinson's, and he's no longer able to travel. I'll get on to that story in a little minute, because this is what Judy shared with us, what she's having to face now, with this new season in her life.

But before I do, I must tell you another story about my sister-in-law, which is quite amazing. Judy is a twin, her twin sister is Jan, and they are identical twins. I can remember when Judy would come to our home, way back in the days when she and my brother were courting. Sometimes Jan would come too, but we wouldn't know who was who, I mean they were just so identical.

Well, praise the Lord, they were identical, because if they weren't, well, we may not have known Judy today. Because way back then they didn't really put a nametag or identification on the babies. Somehow there was another set of twins that were born at the same time in the hospital. For some reason, nobody knew that it happened at the time, but these twins got mixed up.

These twins were about 20 months or so, maybe two years. One day Judy's mother was wheeling her twins down the street in her push chair, as we call it in New Zealand, just pushing it into the shop. There she meets another lady with twins. That's so exciting to meet someone else with twins! I know, because I also had twins!

Of course, she goes up to them, and oh, before their eyes, they see something dreadful! Because one of the twins in her pushchair looked exactly like one of the twins in the pushchair of the other mother! And vice versa! The mothers looked and realized something had happened. Because they were identical, it was obvious. Here were these two sets of twins, but with two different mothers! One with one, one with the other. Can you imagine that happening to you?

Well, of course, they had to go and get checked, find out which twin belonged to each family. They had to face the most traumatic experience of giving up a baby which they thought was theirs, they thought belonged to them, whom they had loved, and were bonded to completely.

Now my sister-in-law, Judy, she was the one who was with the other mother. She had to be given back to her true mother. And then her mother had to part a baby whom she loved. It was a most traumatic experience for all.

Fortunately, Judy's parents were very godly people, and God gave them great strength to handle the situation. Judy didn't know about this herself until later on in her life, in latter years. I mean, not when she was really older, but when she was grown up.

But she never suffered one little emotional stress in her life. If you could see my sister-in-law today, she is the most “got-it-together” person you could ever imagine in your whole life. I believe that's because of the parents who were able to embrace this new baby, which was theirs, and begin to pour out their love on this baby, and bond with this little one.

Sadly, sadly, that didn't happen in the other home. This we have only found out in very latter years. Because it was such a sore point in the parents’ lives, and when Judy did find out, she found out through her grandparents. She was never allowed to talk about it with her parents. They wouldn't talk about it.

In fact, when Judy and Grant, my brother, were courting, I'll never forget one mealtime. They came and had dinner. You know how it is when you get the two families together. Her family came to have dinner with our family. And interestingly, her father had been groomsman at my father's wedding, and then they had parted ways all these years until, now, these two were courting.

So, my father is there at the table, and he just puts his foot in it. He says, “Well, that must have been a pretty terrible time when those twins were all mixed up!” Oh my. You could have cut the air with a knife!

Her father said, “We don't talk about that, thank you!” That was the end of that conversation!

It was only when her parents passed away, that Judy wanted to find out, “Who was this woman, who was my first mother?” She was able to track her down. She shared with us that when she went to this home in great trepidation, and knocked on the door, this woman came to the door. She said to her, “I'm your Susan,” because that's what they had called her.

Well, this woman, she just ran! She ran into the house screaming, “My Susan is here, my Susan is here, my Susan is here!” This woman had never ever never got over losing that child.

In fact, when Judy was able to meet the other twin, then they discovered for the first time what had happened. The twin who had been given back, it was the first time she could understand why she was never accepted in the family. She was rejected. She wasn't loved. She was never even hugged. They couldn't accept her. So, it was a terrible thing that happened in that other family.

So anyway, that's the story of my sister-in-law. But she is so amazing today. It didn't really affect her because she had wonderful parents.

As we were all sharing about our lives, Judy began to share about facing life now with her husband, who has Parkinson's. Because my brother and his wife Judy have always been the most adventurous couple in the world, they have traveled, and they have done exciting things with their family. They were just wonderful parents.

Then as their children have grown up, the children have left the shores of New Zealand. Two of them live here in Tennessee.

We are blessed to have Melissa, her daughter, here with us. Their eleven children, soon to be twelve, because Melissa and Cal, are in the process of adopting a little Down's Syndrome baby from China. They're no longer able to have any more. They're blessed with eleven, praise the Lord, and so now they're adopting this little baby. They're going to call this coming baby, Jewel, because all their children, their names start with “J.”

So, Melissa lives here, and Judy’s other son Levi lives here, and another daughter lives in Majorca, in Spain. So of course, they had to travel to be with their children.

Now, Grant can't travel. He just can't go too far away, because Parkinson's is not only physical, but very emotional. You can't cope with too much. So now all their plans of visiting so much with their children who live overseas and doing other wonderful things together have come to a halt. They’ve always had the most glorious marriage. They just wanted to enjoy these wonderful retirement years together, and now, Judy, who feels so fit and full of energy and full of adventure, is stuck.

Now, she came this time to see her family here. She came for three weeks, leaving Grant. Praise the Lord, her twin sister and husband live right next door, so they were able to look after Grant while she was away.

But most of their plans have had to change. She was just sharing how she had to come to this, and accept this season of her life, and accept this situation with her husband. Not to be bitter, not to be disappointed, but to embrace what's happening now, and to make the most of this.

Of course, she loves to be useful, so there is an Old People's home just down the road from her. She goes down there and visits and talks these people, helping where she can. She just loves to make herself useful.

And of course, she's there to support her husband. But I thought it was such a beautiful thing to see her attitude. And to see, how, without disappointment and bitterness, she is embracing this, and still full of joy, and making the most of her life.

So, of course, we continued around the table, and I won't go on with all the rest of the stories of everybody else. But you can just imagine what a beautiful time it was. Of course, we laughed, and of course, we cried. These are wonderful times, wonderful memories.

I would encourage you, dear wives and mothers, to make memories in your family. Make things happen. It's so easy to just go along, in the busyness of life, and everything we must do, and forget to make memories.

Always be thinking of special things that you can do, special meals that you can make, special functions you can create to make happen with your family. Or even to bless others outside your family.

I have done so many different things over the years. I remember, and I used to find, even when I was raising our children (they're all grown now), but when I was raising them, and in the home, I found that my home was the most powerful place to touch people for God. I had a home. You have a home.

Oh yes, a home is a sanctuary for your family. But it's a home to bless others. You can impact hundreds of lives. I'm sure we've impacted thousands of lives all throughout the years in our home.

I remember one time I got an idea to put on a function for the older people in our community, the over seventies. So, I got with a few friends of the other mothers with their little children, and said, “Hey, let's do something! Let's reach out and bless the older ones, shall we?”

This time it got so big that we couldn't even do it in the home. I’ve since done others for older people in the home, but this one turned out so big that we had to do it in our church hall. We got everybody involved. We got young people involved, going out in their vans and in their cars to go and get these old people from the nursing homes. Everyone who was able enough to get into a car, we invited them to this beautiful luncheon.

Oh, and then we got people in the church excited. We'd gotten to cook the most beautiful food, the most beautiful cakes, and we put on a spread, like a wedding feast! And then when it was all spread out, I said, “Oh goodness me, what are we going to do with all this food? We will never eat it all!”

But you cannot believe it. All those dear old people, oh, they had never seen a feast like it for years! And you know what? They ate every little bit. It was all gone! They just loved it, and then we put on a little concert for them. We got our children to do put on talent for them. They could sing, or they could get up and recite memory verses. They could play their instruments. Old people love to see the young children doing things. So, we put on a beautiful concert for them.

But you can do that in your home. Invite a couple of older people to your home for a meal. Then you could have your children practice up some songs or musical items for them. Sing a song, say a poem, whatever. These are beautiful things you can do to bless others outside your home.

So always be thinking of new ideas, creative ways to do special things as a family, and special things to reach out beyond your family. I think of that wonderful Scripture, and I'll close this session with this Scripture, 1 Timothy 5:10.

Here Paul is writing to Timothy, and he's talking about all the widows, there seemed to be many widows in the church, and Timothy didn't know what to do with them. So, Paul said, “Okay, here is what you do, Timothy. All the widows who have children or grandchildren, they must care for them. They must look after them.”

That's still God's plan today, not pushing our old people off in homes where we don't have to worry about them, but looking after them, bringing them into our own homes. But there were still some widows who had no one to look after them.

So, he said, “Okay, if they are true widows of 60 years of age and older, and they have lived a certain lifestyle, I want you to look after them. You can care for them and provide for them from the church.”

So here it says that if she has lived a lifestyle that is “Well reported of for good works, if she has brought up children.”

God always puts first things first. The first thing is: “if she has brought up children.” Has she embraced children, welcomed them, fed them.” Actually, that's the word for “brought up.”

The word in the Greek is:

teknotropheo.

teknon = child

trepho = to feed, to nourish, to pamper with food.

It's all part of our mothering—feeding, feeding, feeding, cooking, cooking, cooking. Never despise it. It's fantastic, it's part of what you do.

But then it goes on to see the heart of this woman, that reached out even beyond her children.

“If she has loved strangers.” Her heart was open in hospitality. Her doors were open to invite people into her home, to sit around her table for a meal, to stay the night. She had a big heart.

And of course, once again, hospitality entails feeding. You can't invite people to your home without feeding them.

And then it says: “If she has washed the saints' feet.” Well, back in Bible times, when they came into the home, they washed their feet because they'd been walking the dusty roads with their sandals. So, it was the custom when they came into the home—feeding them, washing the saints' feet. This talks about reaching out to the lowly ones and the needy ones.

It goes on to say: “If she has relieved the afflicted.” You can't relieve those who are needy and poor and afflicted without giving them food.

In blessing people, in opening your home, making things happen, it all entails food. So, just enjoy making food! It's part of what you're meant to do. It makes wonderful memories, and you can make your home so exciting.

Let me pray.

“Dear Father, I thank You for all these precious ladies listening. I pray that You will give them a vision for their home. I pray that You will put on their hearts the creative ideas, things they can do in their homes to bless their families, to bless so many needy people outside their families. And Father, that You will make their home a place where people feel Your presence, where they find You, and where they know that You are real. We ask it in the Name of Jesus. Amen.”

Transcribed by Darlene Norris

PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | Episode 2 - YOUR HOME IS LIKE A SHEPHERD’S FOLD

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YOUR HOME IS LIKE A SHEPHERD’S FOLD

Announcer:  Welcome to the podcast, From Our Home to Yours, with Nancy Campbell, founder, and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Good morning to you ladies. Well, it may be good evening. I don't know when you're going to be listening to this, but wherever you are, may you be blessed of the Lord.

Don't forget to tell others about the podcast. We're just getting started, so let others know about it. We will send it out to you once a week, and we will try to keep to just a half an hour. I forgot to look at the clock in our first session, so I went a bit longer, but I promise you I'll remember to look at the clock in the future.

Now today, I'd like to talk a little bit more about that beautiful word, “naveh,” just one of the words for “home” in the Bible, a word that means” lovely, pleasant, satisfied.” Isn't that beautiful?

I'd like to bring you over to the New Testament today, because it's good to look at the Old, and to look at the New. I love both the Old and the New Testaments. I'm not one of those who likes to read the New Testament only, or just the Old. I love both because I love the saying that says: “The New is in the Old concealed; the Old is in the New revealed.” I find that there is so much that is so similar in both the Old and the New Testaments.

I want to take you to a passage in John 21 today, a beautiful story. This was after Jesus had risen from the dead, and He was wanting to talk to His disciples, to fellowship with them, and to give a special word to Peter, actually.

So, He went down to Galilee, because He knew that's where they'd be, out fishing, and yes, there they were. You could see them out on the lake fishing. And so, what did Jesus do? He began to build a little fire on the shores of Galilee. He gathered sticks and got this lovely little fire going. Then He began to cook breakfast. He began to cook fish and bread and get it ready for His disciples.

Now that was a lovely thing, but, ladies, have you thought about it? Who was cooking? It was Jesus, the One Who had just risen from the dead, conquered death, and conquered hell, live from the grave! What was He doing? He's cooking! Oh my!

And you thought cooking was a little bit too lowly for you!

Sometimes we think these mundane, no they're not mundane, but we think they are, these things that we have to do in our home, all our duties. Cooking! We can't get away from it, because our husband is hungry, and our children are hungry. And if we don't prepare food, they're not going to be nourished and looked after. And so, we have to do them each day.

But I want to encourage you, dear moms, please don't look upon cooking as a chore. It is a powerful, powerful thing that you do in your home. Cooking has power to change lives. Cooking and preparing food is very powerful because it paves the way for greater things. And we're going to see that in this story.

So, Jesus was preparing breakfast. Then He called out to His disciples to come and dine. “Come, come and have breakfast!”

He got them all in around this fire and this lovely food that He had prepared for them. The Bible says, in Luke, Chapter 21, that Jesus served them. Once again, this is Jesus, this One Who had just risen from the dead! Oh goodness me, if we had risen from the dead, I guess we'd think we were too important to be doing some very servile thing.

But no, Jesus served them. He waited on them.

They enjoyed food together. Can you imagine the wonderful fellowship they enjoyed as they talked together? Because, dear ladies, this is what food is all about!

Food is not just eating to fill your hungry tummy. Food is fellowship. Say it with me: FOOD IS FELLOWSHIP!

We're not ever meant to eat food in isolation. God intends us to eat food together. That's why it's so important to gather our family around the table to eat together. That's why God paints the beautiful picture of the family in Psalm 128. And what was the picture? A family sitting around the meal table. That's the picture God loves of a family! Check it out: Psalm 128:3: “Your wife is like a fruitful vine within the heart of your home, your children like olive branches, all around your table!”

Why do we sit around a table? So we can see one another. We can look at one another. We can talk to one another. As one writer says, “Eye to eye, face to face, table fellowship.” I love that. That's how it's meant to be. Eye to eye, face to face. And if it's not that, it's not the real thing.

In fact, we don't even get the same nutrients or enjoyment or all the blessings out of our food unless we are eating it with others.

Always gather your family to your table. Make it a special thing every day in your home. Make it a habit, and don't get out of the habit. If you've got out of it, establish that habit again.

So, the disciples and Jesus enjoyed that beautiful time together. And then, after they had dined and fellowshipped, Jesus called Peter to Himself. He had a special word for Peter. I'm sure you remember the story. In verse 15, Jesus said to Peter, “Peter, lovest thou Me more than these?”

Peter replied, “You know I love You, Lord.”

Jesus said to him, “Feed my lambs.” But that wasn't enough. Jesus asked the question again. He said the same thing, although this time, He used “sheep.” “Feed my sheep.” That wasn't enough. He asked him again if he loved Him. Then He gave him the same word again: “Peter, feed my sheep.”

Jesus was seeking to pass on to Peter His heart, His shepherding heart. Because Jesus is the Great Shepherd. He is the Good Shepherd. Dear precious ladies, we learn to be mothers if we learn to shepherd like Jesus shepherds, because shepherding and mothering are so similar.

Now it's interesting, the first time Jesus said, “Feed my lambs,” that is just the word “feed.” To feed. Actually, that is the word that's used for a “shepherd.” He's a feeder. Then the second time the word is used, he uses a different word altogether.  It's the word in the Greek, poimainos, and this time it means more than just giving food. It means to totally cling to the sheep in every single way, in the full understanding of shepherding. 

Perhaps I could read to you that same picture of what it means for a shepherd to shepherd his sheep, and therefore what it means for us as we mother our little flock, or our big flock, whatever it may be.

Now I have looked into all the words of shepherding, and into the Hebrew words, and into the Scriptures. As I look at these, I find all these understandings of how to shepherd and to mother. Pretty amazing. Want to hear it? Okay.

It means to befriend with an intimate relationship, to be a companion. That is part of the word “shepherd,” to be a friend and companion, to bind and bandage up the hurt and broken, to bravely fight off all enemies, just like David did.

Do you remember when he was a shepherd boy out on the hillside, there in Judah? The lion came, and the bear came, but he was brave.  He so cared for and so loved his sheep that he was willing to lay down his life for his sheep. He went after those enemies. He told one story of how he went and got hold of that lion, how he got it by the beard, and wrested the little lamb out of its mouth! Wow, that took courage!

But that is part of being a shepherd-mother. Yes, we are to be tender and loving, but we also are to rise up against anything that will come against our children and would seek to take them off.

That's why I think that sometimes it would be good for some mothers to go in with that same spirit that David had, go into that public school system and take their precious children out of the jaws of the lion! Just like David, he took hold of that beard and pulled out that little lamb. “I'm not going to get my little lamb devoured! I'm rescuing this lamb! I'm going to save it because I love this little lamb!”

And it means to bring back the straying ones, to carry the lambs, your lambs, close to your heart. To comfort, to encourage, to eliminate fear, to feed, to gather in your arms, to gather to your table, to gently lead, to guard and watch over your flock, to guide them on the right track, to heal the sick, to keep them safe, to lead to restful and rich green pastures, to nourish, to persevere to find the lost one, to prepare a table, to protect, to provide, to rescue when they turn to wrong paths, to restore, to renew, revive and refresh, to rule with wisdom and discretion.

And yes, encompassed in the meaning of “shepherd” is also the meaning, to rule. To rule over our little flock means to guide them with wisdom and discretion, to sacrifice and lay down our lives, to save our flock, to strengthen the weak, and ultimately, to tend to our flock as we fold them in our fold.

That was the full meaning of when Jesus spoke the second time to Peter. Two times he said, “Feed my sheep.” That one time he said, “I want you to tend to them, in every aspect of their lives.”

So dear mothers, it's not really a part-time job after all, is it? Mothering is a full-time job as we fold our flock.

I have a beautiful picture. I posted it on Facebook the other week, and I think I'd love to have it on my wall. It's a picture of a sheepfold in the Middle East. The walls are made of stone, and the stones of course are a wall. It's a rectangular sheepfold, and the stones were high enough that no wolf or no predator could get in. There was just one door, one opening or gate, whichever word you would like to use.

There in this picture is the shepherd, sitting in the gate, filling the gate. Nothing could get past him to his sheep. He was the door. No one could come in or go out. The sheep couldn't get out. No predator could get in, except through him. He was guarding over his sheep. Such a beautiful picture.

The shepherd in the Middle East doesn't shepherd his sheep part-time. He is always there with them. Night and day, he's with them, guarding them and watching over them. This is our role that we have as the folders of our flock, the shepherdesses.

Let me take you to Isaiah 40, verse 11. I know you love this Scripture. “He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: He shall gather the lambs with his arms, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.” This is a picture of mothering.

The first thing is feeding. Yes, so once again, as I said before, lovely ladies, don't despise feeding. Feeding begins the moment our little baby is born. The baby comes to the breast to nurse and to find sustenance. That baby just wants to drink night and day.

If you're a breastfeeding mother, give yourself and make yourself available to your little baby. Don't try to schedule your feeding. Babies want to feed on and off. Breastmilk is a very perfect milk for your baby. It digests quite quickly, far more quickly than formula or cow's milk, which takes quite a while to digest.

That's why, long ago, this four-hourly scheduled feeding came in, because when people turned to bottle feeding, they had to wait so long for that cow's milk to digest.

But today I think most mothers are nursing their babies. We must remember that breastmilk digests quickly. Babies are ready to have another feed so quickly.

Also, babies don't just feed for milk. That's something we must get out of our brain, that is that feeding is just for physical. No, feeding is far more than for just the physical. Even when we start off with our babies, feeding is far more than just the physical.

Yes, our baby is hungry, but there are times when your little baby just wants to nurse from you, and he's not hungry. “Why does he want to nurse? I just fed him 20 minutes ago! Goodness me!”

But dear mother, God created your baby with a sucking instinct. Your baby wants to suck. Have you noticed that? Well, some of you may have babies that are quite content, but the majority of babies, they want to suck, and they want to suck even when they're not hungry.

Why do they want to suck? Because God created them that way, not only for their blessing, because the more they suck from the breast, the better for their own development, but also for your benefit. The more the baby sucks the breast, the more milk you make, so you will always have adequate sustenance for your little baby.

Your baby will also be ministered to emotionally. When we go to Isaiah 66, and we look at the picture of breastfeeding here, once again, it's an allegory. In verses 10-13, God is talking about Jerusalem. He likens Jerusalem to a nursing mother. When we read this passage, we find out how God looks upon a breastfeeding mother.

As we read, we don't read anything about feeding. But we read the words satisfying, consoling, delighted, peace, flowing, comforting. So, nursing from the breast is far more than just giving milk. It's consoling your baby, satisfying your baby, comforting your baby. As your baby sucks, he is comforted. 

What is going on within his little heart and soul? You're bringing comfort, because food is far more than physical. Food ministers to the soul and the spirit as well.

And so, we begin with our baby, and as we continue, we must keep on cooking. The bigger your children get, the more you're going to have to cook! That's just part of it all.

All right, just let me read you one or two more Scriptures that have this word, naveh. Actually, this word is found 36 times in the Bible. I'll just read you one or two passages.

Proverbs 3:33: “God blesses the habitation, (naveh) of the just.”

Proverbs 21:20: “There is treasure to be desired and oil in the dwelling (naveh) of the wise.”

Proverbs 24:15: “Lay not wait, O wicked man, against the dwelling (naveh) of the righteous. Spoil not his resting place.” That's another beautiful word God uses for our homes, our “resting place.”

Here's another beautiful Scripture. Isaiah 32:18: “And my people shall dwell in a peaceable habitation (there's the word naveh again) and in sure dwellings, and in quiet resting places.”

Did you notice, lovely ladies, that in that one Scripture there, there are four different words for the home, just in that one Scripture? This is how much that God thinks about the home.

Let me tell them to you. “And my people shall DWELL.” That's the Hebrew word yashab, meaning “to dwell.” We talked about this last part. It means to really live in your home, to make it your life.

Our home will be what we make it. It can be the most exciting place on earth if we make it that way. Or it can be the most boring place on earth if we don't get up our feet and do something! We determine the atmosphere. We determine the lifestyle of the home that we live in.

“My people shall dwell.” They're going to live and make life there in a “peaceable habitation.” That's naveh, a place of peace. And “in sure dwellings.” There's another word, mishkan. Oh, that's a beautiful word too, that's a word that's often used of the Temple of God, where God dwells. But He also uses it of our homes. Isn't that wonderful? He wants our homes to be dwelling places filled with His presence.

The last one, “and in quiet resting places.” That word is the Hebrew word menuchah. It literally means “to take rest, sit down, enjoy your home.”

May you be blessed ladies. Let me pray for you.

“Dear Father, I thank You for these precious ladies listening again today. I ask that You will give them a new vision for their homes, Lord, that You want them to be beautiful places, peaceful dwellings, restful places, places, Lord, where Your presence dwells, just as You dwelt in the Holy of Holies, in the Tabernacle. You use the same words for our homes. You now want to come and dwell in our homes. Dear Father, I pray that You will come into each home. Manifest Your presence. Help each dear mother, Lord God, to seek You, and to do what You would have them to do to make Your presence more felt and more special in their homes. I ask this in the precious Name of Jesus. Amen.”

Transcribed by Darlene Norris

PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | Episode 1- GOD WANTS TO DWELL IN YOUR HOME

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God Wants to Dwell in Your Home

INTRO: Welcome to the podcast “From Our Home to Yours with Nancy Campbell,” founder and publisher of “Above Rubies.”

NANCY: Welcome ladies to our very first podcast. So many have been asking me to do a podcast for so long and at last I am doing it. It’s so lovely to be with you and I pray that this is going to be a wonderful blessing to you as I come to you from my home to your home.

You’ve already been welcomed and that was by my lovely grandson, Rocky Barrett, who is Pearl’s son. His name is actually Rocklyn Jefferson Barrett; and he was named after Pearl’s brother, my son Rocklyn and Charlie’s brother Jefferson, so he has a real family name. And, with me here in our studio today is another wonderful grandson, Arden Allison who is Serene’s oldest son and he’s doing the recording for us. We had also hoped to have Chalice with us today because she is going to learn from Arden so eventually she can take over. Arden is kept very busy filming for Trim Healthy Mama and doing lots of projects of his own. Just this last weekend, with many of the other cousins, and a few extras besides he was filming a great survival movie which we hope will also be coming out in good time when they’ve got all the editing done.

But, anyway, we’re here together at last and I welcome you all. The children who are listening, the mothers who are listening, young moms, middling moms, and even the older moms. I hope the older moms are not running away because I believe that we as older moms need to be encouraged and refreshed in our anointing of mothering as much as when we were younger. The reason is, is that we now have the responsibility to teach and show the young mothers how they are to mother and how they are to be wives and so we need constant refresher courses. I find as an older mother that I need to continually seek the Lord, continually search His Word to know what He is saying and to know His Truth for the young moms because this is my responsibility as it is the responsibility of every older mother. So, I hope we can all be in this together.

Now, what will we do on these podcasts which we will send out once a week to you? I will be speaking of course about parenting, about motherhood, about being a wife and being in the home and also I will be open to answering your questions which you can send to me at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. but put “Question” in the heading/title place so I will pick it up otherwise I may miss it. And, I will introduce to you from time to time some of our family members and get them to share and other people who I will invite on to the program.

We have lots of the family who live around us on this hilltop. We are right here in the center and just a couple of minutes through the woods we have Evangeline and Howard and their family living and their children.

We used to have, a couple of minutes through the woods, in another direction Pearl and Charlie and their children although just before Christmas that house burned down and so it’s no longer there. Praise the Lord they were already in the process of building another home just up the road and they were able to move into that which was a wonderful blessing.

And then we have Serene and Sam and their family living just over the road, just a little beautiful walk through the woods about 15 minutes or so to their place. So, we have our oldest daughters around us here on the hilltop and so many wonderful, amazing grandchildren. Our sons live in the city and also our adopted children from Liberia, they now live in the city too. But they’re still close, only about an hour away. And so, hopefully, you’ll get to meet different ones from time to time.

So now, today I would like to start sharing with you about the home. I love home, don’t you? God loves home. Because He is the one who designed the home. He is the one who thought of it. And He was the first home designer. And He created the first home.

The first home, as you know, was called the Garden of Eden. Now in the Hebrew, “Eden” means “delight.” And this was the prototype of all homes to come. Everything that God wrote about in the first two or three chapters in Genesis were His prototype, His plan for how we are to live right up to this 21st century today. And so, we know that God wants us to make our homes a delight, and this is what He intends them to be.

But recently I’ve been studying to find out more and more how God feels about the home. And I found in the Word of God the word “dwell.” To dwell in our homes, talking about a dwelling place for God and a dwelling place for us because God is ultimately a dwelling God. He loves to dwell. He doesn’t just float in space. He is a literal dwelling God. And back in the Old Testament we read of how God delighted to dwell with His people even in the wilderness and He dwelt in a tent for the tabernacle in the wilderness was a temporary thing. It could travel from place to place. And God ordained, the God of the universe, the God who is so high, the Potentate, the King of kings and the Lord of lords, ordained to dwell in a tent, in a temporary tabernacle, with His people because He wanted to be with them. And He says, “I will come, and I will dwell with you and I will walk with you.”

And He dwelt there, and the children of Israel knew that God was there because in the day there was a pillar of cloud over the tabernacle and in the evening, the nighttime, there was a pillar of fire. And they knew that God was dwelling in the Holy of Holies with all His shekinah glory. And they dwelt round about that tabernacle.

But time went on and eventually the temporary tabernacle was finished and then David, who got the vision for the temple, passed it on to his son Solomon who built the temple and then God came and dwelt in the Holy of Holies in the temple in Jerusalem.

But then there came a day when that was over, and Jesus died upon the cross and when that happened that thick veil between the Holy Place and the Holy of Holies was torn apart. Up until that time, only the High Priest could enter into that Holy of Holies and he couldn’t go in without sacrificing and shedding the blood, taking the blood in with him to cover his sin and the sins of his family and the sins of the nation. And he went in with the incense just blowing and filling that Holy of Holies because he could not see God face to face.

But then when Jesus died that was just finished. And God said, “Now I’m going to come and dwell in a temple. I am going to come in your temple. Your body. And now our bodies are called “the temple of the Holy Spirit.” And He dwells in us if we have received Him into our lives. Into our hearts. He literally dwells in us. But we go on and we look into eternity and in Revelation John is giving us pictures of the eternal realm and he gives a beautiful picture of God. Let me take you to it, let me see if I can find it in my Bible here, I love this passage. Yes, here it is in Revelation 21:3: “And I heard a great voice out of Heaven saying, Behold the tabernacle, the dwelling place of God is with men.” God chooses to dwell with us, His people, and he says: “and He will dwell with them and they shall be His people and God Himself shall be with them and be their God.”

And so, we understand how God loves to dwell. He will always dwell with us, His people. And so, I found 468 times that the word “dwell” is mentioned in the Bible. But when we read the word “dwell” we find that it’s not all the same word in the Hebrew and there are many different Hebrew words for the word “dwell”. And so, I found 31 different Hebrew words for the word “dwell,” plus about five meaning “temporary dwelling” and I found 16 Greek words in the New Testament all for “dwelling.” How God wants us to dwell in our homes! And how He wants to come to dwell with us! In us! And in our homes! And then, I also found 23 different Hebrew words and then 31 different Greek words in the New Testament for sitting at a table and eating meals in our home.

Now, ladies, that’s over 100 different words that are used for dwelling in our homes, for being in our homes and sitting at our table and eating food together. That’s how interested God is in our lives. Especially in our home life because right in the beginning it started off with the home. Before our business, and before church, and before government, before all the things that are part of our lives today, God first instigated marriage, family, and the home. Because this is how He wants us to live. And He wants us to live in our homes. He doesn’t want us to have homes that we come into every now and then and sleep in them for the night. No, He wants us to dwell in our homes. Now that word means, “to abide in” them, to “remain in” them, to make our life in them.

I’d love to talk a little about this today and perhaps in other sessions about making our lives in our homes. I hear lots of mothers often saying words such as: “Well, I don’t know, “I get bored with being at home.” Others will say: “Well, I love my children but, I don’t really love being at home.” Others even say, “I’m miserable at home.”

But just a minute, ladies! I want you to be careful of what you say. Because when we say those negative words, you know what we’re really saying? We’re talking about ourselves. If we say, “Oh, I’m bored at home,” what we’re really saying is “I’m a boring person.” Now, if we say, “I’m miserable at home,” what we’re really saying is “I’m a miserable person.” Because home is what we make it!

Dear ladies, you as a mother determine the life in your home. You determine what it’s going to be like, if it’s going to be boring and miserable and unhappy. Or you decide if it’s going to be exciting, fulfilling, productive, creative, and all the wonderful things you want life to be. Whatever you want your life to be, you can make it happen in your home for this is where life begins, and this is where the majority of our life should happen. And especially for us as mothers in the home.

Yes, our husbands are going to go out, they go out to earn the living, to provide so faithfully for us so we can be at home and create this wonderful environment, this exciting environment where there’s something always happening because we’re making it happen! Many homes are just boring because the mother in the home is not actually making anything happen, because to make things happen, we must get up off our seat and make them happen. It takes effort. It takes work. It takes thinking about it. It takes creative ideas.

But I want to give you a vision today, dear mothers. Please don’t just become a victim of your circumstances. Well, I know that yes, you can get tired in your home with you little ones running around and yes, you often have to do the same things every day to keep the home running smoothly and you’ve got to get your laundry done and you’ve got to keep those dishes done, you’ve got to keep your place clean, you’ve got to keep those meals on the table, and you’ve got to watch over your little ones, yes.

But do you know that every single task can be exciting according to the attitude that you have? You can make every task exciting. And even in the midst of all the basic things that you just have to do each day you can fit in exciting things. Beautiful things. Lovely things. But you’ve got to think about them. You’ve got to ask God to give you creative ideas and to show you what you can do. Because life can be one big party in the home. This is what our home is like here. Yes, there’s another party tonight here. Colin and I have to go out this evening to our granddaughter’s home for a meal so that will be beautiful. But while we’re out the young people want to have a games night. It’s one of the birthdays so there will be another party here. I don’t think we go hardly a week by in this home without there’s a party or some function happening. Now sometimes there are some of the grandchildren and others saying, “Can we have our party here, Nana.”

But many times, I am thinking about what I can do to make something exciting happen so that home is never boring, there’s always something exciting happening, and it’s a place of productivity where we are accomplishing things.

Now, I must put in a little something here, and dear, precious, young moms who are listening, maybe you’re in that season and life is filled with seasons. Maybe you’re in that season now where you’ve got one, two, three or maybe four little ones around you and you can’t even just add one more thing to your day. If you can get through to just get those meals cooked, just keep a basic clean house, you have made it! I want to encourage you, please don’t despair.

Realize you are doing a powerful work. There is nothing more powerful than raising and caring for and nurturing and loving precious little lives that God has given to you. God gave you these little babies and toddlers. He gave them to you. He calls them “my children” and He gives them to you. He’s commissioned you to care for them and nurture them for Him. To nurture them with His heart and that heart of love He’s put in your heart for them and you’re doing a great job! You are accomplishing great things. You are accomplishing great things not only for now and the future, but for eternity! So please be encouraged.

Now some of you may be middling moms and your little toddlers are growing up. They’re getting bigger and as children grow up they then become a wonderful help to you and they can help you with your little ones. Life becomes easier as your family becomes bigger. Because the older children grow, the more responsible, the more capable they become, and the more able they are to help you in the home and help you with projects and it becomes a different season.

I know sometimes some young mothers look on mothers with larger families and they think, “Help! How could I ever have so many children?” Oh goodness me, can I tell you a little secret? The most challenging time of motherhood is when your babies are just little, and you don’t have any older ones to help you. You are their soul entertainment. They need you twenty-four hours a day and you are doing everything for them. And it’s a glorious, beautiful time, but perhaps the most challenging time. I want to tell you it won’t always be like that. There will come a time when these little darlings grow bigger. And then when you have another baby they’ve grown bigger still. And when you have another baby, wow, you’ve got bigger children again. And so, life becomes easier.

Well, that’s why I don’t have Chalice with us today because Serene said, “Oh, two of my girls have had to go out and so I will need Chalice with me today,” because she will need help with the little ones and she can do amazing and accomplish so many incredible things because she has the most amazing, wonderful, capable older daughters in her home.

And so, we go through all these seasons in our mothering and in our homes. But I would like to give you perhaps one Hebrew word today. One of these words. As I said, I found over 100 words and I don’t think I’ll ever have time to tell you about them all, but I will just tell you about some of them, so we can learn and get more understanding about our homes.

Now, the word I’d like to tell you about today is the Hebrew word “naveh.” It’s spelt “n-a-v-e-h.” And in the Strong’s Concordance it’s the number 5-1-1-6. Now, it’s a beautiful word. It’s a word that is used for “home” in the Bible. It’s used to describe God’s home. It was used to describe His temple. It’s also used to describe our homes. It’s even used to describe homes for animals and for flocks. And this word also means “to be lovely,” “to be pleasant,” “to be satisfied.” And so, those are descriptions God gives of the home.

Now let me take you to a lovely Scripture in Ezekiel 34. Ezekiel 34 and verse 14. Now this whole chapter of Ezekiel 34 is God writing to the shepherds of Israel. Now, these shepherds had failed miserably. They had not shepherded the sheep. They had not fed the sheep and God was just giving warning to them. But as we read this chapter we can also take it to our hearts as mothers because the word “shepherding” in the Bible is very much the word that also means “mothering.” We’ll look at that a little bit in a moment. But let me read you verse 14: “and God says, ‘I will feed them in a good pasture…’”

Now the whole thing here is God is giving an allegory. God writes lots of allegories and this time He’s talking about the children of Israel coming back to the land of Israel. Now we at this moment, this very moment in history, are seeing the fulfilment of this chapter in Ezekiel 34 and have been for many years as God’s people, the Jews, have been coming back from the four corners of the earth. We know how that they were scattered because they had turned away from God and God had to turn them out of the land, their land that had belonged to them, that God had given to them as an eternal and everlasting possession. But He had to just vomit them out of the land.

But He did not forget His people and He promised that He would bring them back. He would bring them back to the land and He would bless them in the land. And we are seeing this today. We’re seeing them come back more and more and more to the land and Israel becoming a prosperous nation and now, Praise the Lord, our own nation of U.S.A. has now put their embassy in Jerusalem and acknowledging the divine truth that Jerusalem is the eternal capitol of the world. We can praise the Lord for that and we can thank the Lord for a President who has done that, and I pray that God would put his blessing and favor upon him for standing with His Truth.

Now this is the allegory He is talking about, the children of Israel coming back, and He says, “I will feed them in a good pasture and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be. There they shall lie in a good fold. And in a fat pasture, there they shall feed upon the mountains of Israel.”

And it is literally talking about people. About His people coming back to the land. About them literally establishing and settling on the mountains of Israel. Now I have seen this with my very own eyes. I have been out to the West Bank. I have visited with settlers in their homes on the West Bank, on the mountains of Samaria and seen how these people have gone out to settle there- fulfilling Bible prophecy. Here it is written in the Word. It is so amazing!

But God is likening them to a flock of sheep who had shepherds who didn’t watch over them. But now He says He’s going to be their shepherd and bring them back and feed them and He is going to put them in their fold. “Their fold.” Now, that word there is the word we are talking about. It’s the word “naveh.” That word that speaks about our homes. Here it’s talking about a fold for sheep, but it’s literally talking about homes for people because it’s people God is talking about. And so, this is their fold and that’s what God wants, how He wants us to see our homes. Like a fold. A fold for our little flock that He has given us.
Maybe you’ve got a little flock. Some of you maybe have a bigger flock. Some of you are in middling stage and your flock is growing. But your children, they are your little flock and you are their shepherd. And God wants you to gather them into your fold because “fold” is a beautiful word that is a noun and a verb.

We have a home, that’s our fold. But we are also “to fold.” To fold, to tend to our little lambs, our sheep and we will look at that in a little minute too. But going back to the beginning of Ezekiel 34 it says here, “And the Word of the Lord came unto me saying, ‘Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel. Prophesy and say to them, ‘Thus saith the Lord God unto the shepherds, ‘Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves!” And you know what? There’s an exclamation mark right after that statement. We don’t read many exclamation marks in the Bible, when we do, we better watch out! Here is one of them, “Woe be to the shepherds that feed themselves!” Exclamation mark. “Should not the shepherds feed the flocks?”

You see, feeding is very much part of shepherding. One of the biggest roles of a shepherd is to feed his flock, to take his flock to good pasture, to green pasture. To make sure it’s safe and it’s healthy and it’s good and it’s rich so they will grow. This job of a shepherd is also the job of us as mothers. And so, we have a big task too, to feed our little flock.

Now this is talking about literal, physical feeding but not only that because feeding is so much bigger than that. It’s feeding physically, but also emotionally, mentally, spiritually. And every way we are to feed as the shepherds, the nurturers, the mothers of our little flock.

And we must watch it what says here. Wow! “Woe to the shepherds who feed themselves.” Now we have to watch that we don’t get taken up or drawn out of our homes to feed on other things. I’m not taking about feeding on the Word because we all need that sustenance of feeding on the Word. But we can feed on many things. We can feed on vain things. We can feed on pleasure. We can feed on things we want to do. We can feed on selfishness and we can feed on ‘I need my own time’ and ‘I need this’ and ‘I need my own space’ and so on. That is also feeding. It’s feeding ourselves.

And dear mothers, I hear so many mothers today, it seems to be the vocabulary of the modern mother that ‘I must have time for myself’ and ‘I must be able to do this’ and ‘I must be free to do that’ and yes, to a little extent that is true, but that’s not the heart of a shepherd and we see this here. In fact, what does a true shepherd do? He lays down his life for the sheep. That’s the true heart of the shepherd- laying down our lives. Not feeding our own life. And so, that’s a little warning for us there as mothers. Don’t feed ourselves. Shouldn’t we be feeding our flock? That should be our ultimate passion, to be feeding our flock.

And then it goes on in verses three to five and it talks about all the things that the shepherds didn’t do, and I’ll read them out to you and they’re pretty challenging and I’m sure that you are doing all of these.

But I think it’s good to read them again because it’s good to be encouraged and I do want to encourage you in these podcasts. But will you mind if sometimes I challenge you as well because I love to be challenged myself. I need challenge. I want to be challenged every day. Because it’s challenge that spurs me on to the ultimate vision that God has for me. And all that He has for us as mothers and women and the power of our role.

Anyway, these are all the things that God says to the shepherds who weren’t doing their jobs:

“You have not feed your flock.

You have not strengthened the weak.

You have not healed the sick.

You have not bound up the broken.

You have not brought back the strays.

You have not sought after the lost.

You have let your flock be scattered.

You have let your flock become a prey. Meat to every beast of the field.”

That last sentence really gets to me because I see many today, of course I expect it in the secular world, but it often disturbs me when godly parents let their precious children become a prey. And I do believe, forgive me for saying so, because it does upset some people for saying so, but it might not have been the case many years ago, but I believe it is today, in our public schools today, as we send our vulnerable, precious little children into these schools and even our older children, they are becoming a prey. A prey to the enemy who is brainwashing them, filling their minds with his agenda. Because the public-school agenda, dearest mothers, is not God’s agenda. It’s not the Bible’s agenda. They don’t even allow Bibles in schools. They don’t allow prayer in schools. But they want to give a humanist agenda. A feminist agenda. More than that today. Now we are facing the battle of the whole gay agenda coming into our schools more and more forcefully. And our children, even kindergarten children, are being suddenly faced with these ideologies that are so against God. And even the Muslim agenda. Yes, that is coming in and there are children even in my state here of Tennessee who go to schools that have had to go through the whole Muslim prayers and who knows what and yet we can’t even pray to God. I mean, where are we at? And how could we as those who are God-fearing and Bible-believing men and women of God send our darling children to be prey to the enemy to be filled with all this junk? Oh goodness me! We can’t do that. We’ve got to fold them. We are shepherdesses. We’ve got to fold our flock. Protect them and guard them.

Well, lovely ladies, I have been talking too much for now. So, we’ll end this session and we’ll talk more about it in the next session.

Can I pray with you?
Dear Father, I thank you so much for every precious mother listening, every child, every teen. Every older mother. Every widow. Lord I ask that You will come and pour out Your blessing and anointing upon them now. I pray that You will encompass them about with Your Holy presence. Let them know that You’re with them in their home, in their kitchen with their children around them. Lord, let them know that they’re in Your very perfect will and that You’re smiling down upon them because they are fulfilling Your Commission. Oh God, fill them with joy. Fill them with the affirmation of Your love and knowing that they are walking in Your will. And bless their husbands. Bless their homes. Just bless them today. I invoke Your blessing upon each one, in the Name of Jesus. Amen.

Transcribed by Jennifer Konie

 

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