PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | EPISODE 165: MEET THE MOM OF ELEVEN SONS!
FROM OUR HOME TO YOURS w/ Nancy Campbell
EPISODE 165 – MEET THE MOM OF ELEVEN SONS!
Today you will meet Cassie Fox, the mom of 11 sons! Baby number 12 is coming, and guess what? It's another son! You will be blessed as you hear from Cassie, who the doctors said would never be able to have children. She also endured many miscarriages, and they have one special needs son, who is a blessing to the whole family.
Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, From Our Home to Yours, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.
Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies. I have someone to introduce to you today. Her name is Cassie Fox. And Cassie, can you believe this? She is the mother of 11 children! But not just 11 children, she has 11 sons! How about that? And Cassie is expecting number 12. And Cassie, what is this little one?
Cassie Fox: Number 12 is also a boy.
Nancy: Isn't that exciting? She is going to be the mother of 12 sons! Oh, I just think that is so amazing. So I'm going to be chatting with Cassie today. I know you're going to enjoy it so much.
But I have a couple of questions for you, before we start chatting together. I wanted to ask you, maybe you have listened to the last series. I just finished last week a series of six podcasts called “LET’S GET BACK THE GLORY.” It was all about clothing, and how the Bible tells us how to dress.
Isn't it amazing how God is so interested in everything that we do? He even gets down right down to the nitty-gritty of even how we're meant to clothe ourselves.
Anyway, I have a question to ask you. I wonder, as you listened to these podcasts, did you change in any of your attitudes about this subject? Did you change the way you dressed. thinking about this subject? I wonder. Wow.
Actually, I'm going to stop for a minute. By the way, I just thought I'd ask, because I read this Scripture yesterday morning, and I've always been challenged by this Scripture. I was challenged again. It's Mark 4:24-25: “And Jesus said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again: and unto you that hear shall more be given. For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath.”
That's challenging, isn't it? I believe that, when we embrace what God speaks to us from His Word, if we will not only listen to it, but actually take heed, embrace it into our lives, that God will give us more. I want more revelation. don't you? I'm always searching for more truth. But I can only get that if I will obey that which He already gives me.
And it's such a challenge when you say to those who don't have, we don't take notice of what God is saying to us. well, He takes away even what we have. But those who receive, He gives more. So I trust that that series was a blessing to you. I know there were challenging parts, but they were all from the Bible. I had to even change my own ways. That's what we have to do when we read the Word, don't we?
And another question: My last podcast, at the end, I shared a Scripture that I had currently been memorizing, because I feel it so relates to this hour in which we are living. It was Revelation 15:2. John was looking into the heavenly realm, and he said, “I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire; And them that had gotten the victory
OVER the beast, and
OVER his image, and
OVER his mark, and
OVER the number of his name.”
That's powerful, isn't it? John saw these people in the heavenly realm, around the throne, because they had overcome. They had overcome the beast. Well, maybe they had their heads chopped off for overcoming. Maybe they got there by being martyred. But somehow, they overcame, in a time when they could not even buy or sell if they did not take the mark of the beast.
And we know, don't we, that's something we must never, ever do. We must be teaching our children, that they have got it right in their very being. Because they will be faced, our children will be faced. We don't know when this is going to happen. We've had a lot of practice runs in these last eighteen months.
We have a practice run even now when people are being forced to take this experimental vaccination. People are taking it because, oh, they might lose their job, or they can't go and shop, or they can't do this, or they can't do that.
Well, I don't believe this is the final mark of the beast, but my, it is a great practice run. Are we overcoming now? Because, I really wonder, if we cannot overcome in what we're facing now, how will we overcome in that time?
I just wanted to remind you about it again, because I suggested to you that you memorize this Scripture with your children, so you can say it out loud together, every day. It's some time. Will it be sooner, or will it be further away? We don't know, but we know it's coming at some time. It's some time. We have to be ready.
We have to exercise our courage muscle. We have to prepare, and we have to prepare our children, that they will be strong in this hour, to stand for God, and never cave into the plans of the enemy, or ever take that mark of the beast.
So, get out that Scripture. Haven't done it yet? Can I remind you again? That you will seek to try to memorize it with your whole family. Say it over together because it's so powerful. Four times it says “over,” and that word “over” means “to prevail, to conquer, to have the victory.” That's the spirit that we have to get in our very being, isn't it?
OK, that was just a little reminder to you.
So now, I've got Cassie here! We've got to talk to her. So, Cassie, it's so great to have you. I’m just getting to know you. I think we'll get to know one another more in the future, because my granddaughter, Cherish (Cherish is one of Serene's daughters) and Cherish and Cassie's son are courting. His name is Ben. We love Ben. He is such a fine young man. We are so happy about Cherish and Ben. Are you happy about them?
Cassie: I am. Cherish matches Ben perfectly. She was made just for him, I think.
Nancy: Yes, they're just so beautiful together. It's so funny, because we've already got the wedding date organized. On January 22, isn't it, I think? You don't know? (laughter) That's what Cherish told me. She said she thought that day, but I don't think he's even popped the question yet! So they've got the wedding date, and he hasn't popped the question. How about that? (laughter) Isn't that amazing?
But anyway, we're looking forward to that. It will be great for Cherish to get married because Cherish has been a bridesmaid, I think now, about ten times! She must be the most popular bridesmaid in the history of the world, I think. That will be so great.
Cherish is one of Serene's adopted daughters. Serene and Sam adopted quite a number of children but there were three siblings. That was Selah, and Isaiah, and Cherish. Selah is married. Oh, Selah, she's so beautiful, the most beautiful girl. Beautiful wife, beautiful mother of six children. She also fosters children. She's just so amazing.
And then Isaiah. He's getting married, at the end of this month, September? Very soon, three weeks or so, yes. He's getting married to Addie, who was an Above Rubies girl. That's going to be beautiful. Then Cherish will be getting married. So great!
I haven't got to know all your family yet. We know Joey, because we see a lot of Joey. I think they came into our lives because Joey and Ben were working with CMS, weren't they? CMS is the manufacturing plant of Trim Healthy Mama. I think Ben, he now works in building now, isn't he?
But I was talking to Joey on Sunday. I said, “Oh, do you know I'm going to interview your mom this coming week?” He said, “Oh, yes!” I said, “What shall I ask her?” And you know what he said? He said, “Oh, just ask who her favorite son is! Because it's me!” (laughter)
Cassie: That's the competition they all have. I hope they all think they are. That's the goal.
Nancy: That reminds me. Did you notice, ladies, in the latest magazine, Above Rubies 98, which I'm sure you have received, there is an advertisement for a tee shirt which says, “I’M THE FAVORITE!” It was Allison Hartman, actually she wasn't the first to get that. It was, oh, it was another friend of mine who thought of that, Heather Bryant who has organized so many Above Rubies retreats in Washington State.
But they put it together, so you can go to the magazine, and you'll see the link. You can buy a tee shirt, “I’M THE FAVORITE!” for everyone in your family. They've got them for every size. You can go round and everyone in your family has got their “I'm The Favorite!” I think that's such a great idea.
Yes, so anyway, Cassie, you were telling me that when you were married, they said that you wouldn't be able to have children.
Cassie: Actually, before I got married. Right after I met my husband, we were dating. I was sent to a doctor because I'd had problems for years. The doctor did surgery. I had cysts, I had. . .
Nancy: All this before you were married!
Cassie: Before I was married. He said I had endometriosis and several other things that I don't even remember, because I didn't understand.
Nancy: Endometriosis usually causes infertility.
Cassie: He told me, “If you do get pregnant, which you probably won't, you'll probably miscarry. You're not going to carry it.” I had just found the person I was going to marry. He wanted a large family which we thought was four kids (children). (laughter)
So I went back, after the break between our college semesters, and told him, “You can marry someone else if you want. I understand. I can't have children.” He said, “No, God told me you're the one. He actually told me we're going to have children.” And he picked our oldest son's name, Cody Michael, and he said, “That's going to be our first son's name.”
We got married a year later, and I still did not have faith that I was going to. But he did. We were married four months and I went on a women's retreat with my mother-in-law. And the woman spoke on infertility. She talked about Hannah and Samuel.
I committed to the Lord then. I said, “OK, I'll take the child however you give it to me. Adoption. However.” But I was trying to . . . It was my first step in trusting.
But a month later, Mother's Day, one of the women at church said, “Oh, next year, you'll be up on the platform for Mother's Day.” I just walked out of the church, went over to my in-law's house and cried. I said, “God, I know You're probably not going to give me a baby.”
Next month was Father's Day and my husband was on the platform. They gave him that month because I was pregnant, and he was the newest father. It was an incredible moment, that I still hadn't completely trusted the Lord, I guess, because the next month I was in the hospital with a threatened miscarriage. We went the whole pregnancy in and out of the hospital.
They kept stopping my contractions. One time I was in there and I was panicking in the hospital, just totally panicking. And the nurse got in my face, and she said, “Are you a Christian?” And I said, “Yes.” She said, “Well, pray to your God.” That was the moment I was, “OK, God, I completely give it to You.” And I prayed and trusted Him, and we did get Cody.
Nancy: How wonderful! When was he born? Was he premature?
Cassie: No, he was born on his due date, February 18th, 1999. Our first son.
Nancy: Wow!
Cassie: Which is a miracle. I started praying, not just to have a child, but to have a sibling for him. I wanted my son to have a brother. I prayed for a brother, and God gave us Stephen, nine months after Cody's first birthday. So they were not quite two years apart.
I thought, “Well, OK, we now have two kids (children).” I thought that's what we were going to get. And then Joey. Only five months after I had Stephen, God gave me Joey. I told my husband, “Whatever they said was wrong. This is not a problem anymore.”
I didn't know Joey was a boy. We didn't have any ultrasounds. God really spoke to my heart during his pregnancy, and told me . . . I only told my husband, because I thought people would think I'm crazy that God was going to give us a lot of sons. So we're going to have more sons.
And two women, two different strangers, two different places, came up to me and said, “I'm the mother of seven sons, and I saw you, and I know you're going to have many sons.” I don't know who those two women were. I never saw them again. I knew Joey was a boy then. Sure enough, he was.
And then Benjamin. Shortly after that, those four, and I got to keep my first four pregnancies, which was pretty incredible.
Nancy: All miracles! Isn't God amazing? Oh yes, you know, we often hear so much negative stuff from the medical profession. So many women hear, “I'll never be able to conceive,” or, “You won't be able to get pregnant,” or this or that, or “If you do get pregnant, something terrible will happen,” or, “You shouldn't.”
But God is so much bigger. He's amazing, isn't He? That is just so wonderful! So, you've got four boys now. What happened? Did you just keep trusting God?
Cassie: We did. The next pregnancy I had I did miscarry. It was very difficult. I was told by two different Christians, “Well, that wasn't a real baby. That was just tissue that didn't work out right.”
But in Jeremiah, the Bible tells us that God knew us before, before He formed us (Jeremiah 1:5). So I knew God knew that child. I used that to make me recommit myself, not to take advantage of the fact that I had four children, but to welcome any more that He would give me.
He gave me twins the next time. I had two boys the next time. One of them has cerebral palsy. He ended up with several other issues along the way. That helped me appreciate and care for him even more because I got to keep him. I got to keep both of them. That changed our family a lot too.
Nancy: Oh, I guess it did! What is his name again?
Cassie: Jacob.
Nancy: Jacob, yes. What a lovely, lovely boy. Oh, he is just so beautiful. In a wheelchair but just so beautiful. Tell us more. Tell the ladies more about Jacob and what he faces in life. Also, how it's affected your family.
Cassie: Well, Jacob is the younger twin. I always said Caleb was given to us for more than one reason. He's very, very special. He helps me. Every day, he helps me. Jacob had a stroke in my womb, at least three of them. I felt them and talked to the doctor about it.
The doctor told me I was crazy, that you can't know that. I didn't say “stroke,” but I said, “He's not breathing. He's just struggling to breathe.” You could feel his little body. When he was born, of course, that was true. It's a very, very long story.
But the short of it is that he ended up with some different doctors that weren't always the best. They medicated him, and caused him more injuries, seizures, and issues. I thank God for a good doctor we finally came across when he was about five. He helped me a lot, and Jacob.
Between five and six, he stopped all medications, was much healthier, able to communicate with us to a point. He was doing a lot better. He was able to get saved and understand for sure. He knows what he loves. He's been baptized. He's able to understand so much. We're just thankful we were able to get him off that medication. You don't have enough time for all that.
Nancy: Oh, please! We just want to hear everything, don't we, ladies?
Cassie: He's changed everyone in our family's hearts. Each of our older boys had to help at different hours. Our oldest son was seven, almost eight. He would just sit and hold Jacob, because Jacob was afraid. His little body would just tremble if you left him anywhere. He needed to be held when he was very small. Each of the boys would help feeding him, taking care of him, making sure he did everything they did.
Nancy: And how old were those boys, about that age?
Cassie: How old were they? When Jacob was born, our oldest was seven and a half. When his seizures started, my oldest was ten. So, ten down to, let's see, Benjamin would have been almost six, I think.
Nancy: So they were just young boys, but they learned how to minister to this little one. That's amazing.
Cassie: They all still do. They all still help, make sure he's. . . Benjamin has actually been the one who asked if, when I can't care for Jacob anymore, if he could have him, if he could take care of him. I know that if he couldn't, all his other brothers are like, “Well, we will.”
God placed him in the middle. He's really in the middle right now. He has five older siblings and five younger. But they all love him and take care of him. Each little brother, they don't know anything different than him in their care.
Nancy: I could imagine both Ben and Cherish welcoming him.
Cassie: They take him out together. They take him to the lake and out to eat. They sit with him, and he loves it.
Nancy: Oh, it just makes me want to cry. So amazing! What are some of the things that they have to do for him each day, currently?
Cassie: Well, Jacob has a feeding tube, which the majority of the nutrition goes through. He did not need that until after the medication reactions we had. He always ate by mouth. So I make . . .
Nancy: Really, those medications do so much more harm.
Cassie: Yes. So I make all his food in the blender, the majority of his food. Caleb, right now, is the one that will feed him through the tube in the morning when I'm taking care of the baby.
We have stairs in the house right now. Hopefully, in two weeks, he'll be on the same level with us. But right now, Caleb carries him down every morning. Jacob's small for his age but he's over 100 pounds. It's a lot of work.
I dress him, but then Caleb puts him in his chair. He's with him right now, watching him. They do school together. His requirements are less, but Caleb always puts on something. They're doing some things separate. He sets it up for Jacob if he needs anything. He loves beads and things to hold, so if he drops them, all the kids (children) know, oh, go get him that. Make sure he has what he needs.
Nancy: He's not really able to communicate? How does he communicate?
Cassie: He has “yes” and “no” sign language, “yes,” and then his head for “no.” He does, every once in a while, say words. If he doesn't think too hard, it will come out naturally.
Nancy: So it’s actually there in his head, yes?
Cassie: When he was younger, he could use his foot a little bit to write words, letters. Now that he's older, he has a speaking device. It's a little hard for him to use. They're going to change it to where he can control it with his eyes. So I'm excited about that because he knows what he wants. He knows what he likes. He can communicate a little bit better that way.
Nancy: I'm sure the greatest blessing is just the fact of him being with his family, not only having so many to care for him, but so much going on. I mean, he would be totally bored in a little, maybe two-child family. What would he do? But there, he's just got so much to observe, look at, and be part of, hasn't he?
Cassie: One of his therapists told me, and I thought they were going to be very judgmental when we had our seventh son. She said, “No, all the kids (children) in this unit who have younger siblings try harder.” And he did.
He's very protective of the younger kids (children). We couldn't tell our one born after him No. Jacob would get upset. He didn't want us to ever tell anyone No. We couldn't scold anybody. It's funny. Yesterday they were watching the kids (children). I came home, and one of my little ones had been naughty. They told Jacob, “Don't tell Mama I was naughty.” Jacob said, “No, no, he was fine. He was fine.” He doesn't like the little ones to get in trouble. He tries harder around them.
Nancy: That's just so amazing. That's another amazing thing, that even though you have this “special needs” child, you never thought of not having any more. Did you think about that, or what?
Cassie: No, every new one was definitely harder. We actually had a miscarriage after the twins. That was the seventh. That was a very difficult loss. Again, it did make my heart yearn more for children instead of stopping it.
We got Luke, and he was a joy. The boys were a little bit older. To see how excited they were with him brought more joy. We thought, “Lord, we're going to keep. . . Whether You take them from us, or let us keep them, we're going to keep accepting what You give, and how long you give them.”
Nancy: That's so beautiful. Everyone has been the most beautiful blessing. Now, you're waiting for another new blessing. How incredible! But you had quite a few miscarriages along the way, didn't you?
Cassie: Yes. After Luke, I got pregnant again. I assumed we'd probably miscarry again. I had a friend, because she had a son with cerebral palsy also, who's a doctor. “Let me do an ultrasound for you, early on.”
I thought I had miscarried, so I went in. I had twins, but I'd lost one of the twins. So I was able to keep Lincoln. Lincoln really says he's a twin in himself because he's got a lot of energy. So I was able to keep him. I thought, “OK, well, maybe the Lord's going to keep letting me have them.” But we had two more miscarriages after that loss.
I thought, “Well, maybe we're done. I don't know what God's doing.” I prayed the same prayer, the same as I had before about Samuel. After Lincoln, our child that we had was Samuel. That was probably my hardest pregnancy, because I really struggled again, kind of back to where I was again, losing three in a row.
“Am I going to get to keep this child?” I think he was about a day old, before I was, I had him, that it's over, and he's here. He's a sweet, sweet boy. So he's probably the one next to Jacob, constantly with him. He's seven. But God let us keep him and He let us keep the baby after him, Brent. And so we were surprised. We got two, back-to-back again. He's five now, and he's sweet.
And we thought that we were probably done. We've gotten kids (children). That's a lot! And then we ended up having a miscarriage, and then we ended up having a tubal pregnancy. It almost cost my life. That one was pretty serious. My ovary had exploded, literally, and my tube was gone. I had hours.
But the Lord brought a doctor to me. She did the surgery, and she told me, “You can still have children.” I didn't think I could. She said, “I'll deliver them. I'll help you.”
Nancy: Did they save the fallopian tube?
Cassie: It was gone. It was exploded.
Nancy: So you just have one ovary.
Cassie: I have one. I had several people tell me, “Oh, no, that makes you more fertile.” I didn't think it did. But it did. I work twice as hard now! I ended up with four more miscarriages, though. I thought, “Well, I might be able to get pregnant.”
But a lot of things, I had many surgeries in that time frame. More cysts and issues, and all those things that what the doctor told me would happen, was happening. I thought we were done. One of them, I carried five weeks, the other three twelve weeks.
So when I got pregnant for the seventh time in a row there, I went into the doctor and said, “Just tell me, is the heartbeat still there, or is it weak? Which one is it?” And she said, “The heartbeat's there, and it's strong. You're going to carry this baby.”
She was so excited because she wanted to deliver one of my kids (children). And he was fine. He tiny, but he's here. He just celebrated his first birthday. I got pregnant again, and she told me the same thing. “This baby's strong, and it's going to make it.” We’ve got sixteen weeks left, I think. It's so exciting.
Nancy: What a beautiful story! So, how many miscarriages have you had in total?
Cassie: Total, a vanishing twin, and then a tubal, and then nine pregnancies, so eleven babies, eleven.
Nancy: Wow. So that means, when this precious baby is born, you will have 23! What a blessing! Wow! So not only do you enjoy with all these amazing sons here, but then you've got all these surprises to meet in eternity! It's just so amazing!
Cassie: Yes, we've talked about it a lot. My mom passed away in November, and I'm like, “She got to meet them all first!” She's probably up there rocking grandbabies. That's what she liked to do. We have them all. I'm so excited.
Nancy: So wonderful. And then I think you have these testimonies that are so encouraging. Sometimes, when you're having a lot of miscarriages, and then my daughter, Serene, has just had a third miscarriage. She's so grieving, and so disappointed. I mean, a miscarriage is not just a miscarriage. It's a life, and you grieve this life, no matter what stage it is, whether it's in the womb, or it's later. Because it's life.
But I'm just so blessed to hear how you kept trusting God. And I think that's the most wonderful thing. And you're getting blessed. Now you have these two babies that are coming, the last one, and now this one. It's so amazing.
I've got lots of beautiful poems about miscarriages, because, you know, women face this quite frequently, and I love to have things to encourage them. So I'll read one of them to you today. I love this. It's called “Holding us Both,” by a mother, Heather Hamilton.
My little one, barely formed
I’ve never seen your face
In this life I’ll never hold you close
And yet
For just a little while my womb was your home
From the moment I knew your life was in me
I loved you
I touched my womb and knew that you were there
A miracle was being woven
But something was not right
I lost you, my little one
Before I got to know you,
hold you close or see your face
My dear little one
My heart cries out for you with such loss and deep sorrow
But I know the LORD will hold you for me
And one day I will see your face
My precious little child
And joy will replace the grief and loss
But until that day the LORD will hold us both.
Isn't that lovely? Yes. Now, as you've been having all these children, you know, our current society doesn't really understand the blessing and joy of children. I think this is one of the greatest testimonies that we can be in this world, as a joyful mother of children. We are revealing what God is like. He is a lover of children.
But I guess you've had lots of negative comments as you've gone out. What are some of the things you've replied, or said, when people said, “Oh, are all these yours?” Or things like that.
Cassie: Oh goodness. It's been a while. I used to get pretty upset. But I'm proud of who my children have become. When I had the older ones, when they were little, I'd get a lot of negative stuff from women.
Men would always tell me, “I wish my wife would have more kids (children).”
That was in California. Out here, it's been the opposite. I'll have women come tell me, “I wish I had more kids (children).” But usually, they ask if they're paying to feed my kids (children). And they're not. We're feeding our own children.
Nancy: What a rude question to ask! Oh!
Cassie: My husband's a hard worker. And our boys are hard workers. Now usually when they find out, I get asked, “You don't have six kids, do you,” when they see the little ones with me.
And I say, “No, I have 12!” And I like these four men, my sons who are adults, Ben's almost there. I like who’ve they’ve become. They're good men. They're godly men. They're hard workers. I like to see who they've become.
I think sometimes one or two kids (children), people have, and they haven't turned out. You can’t say something to me. My experience isn’t yours.
Nancy: I think it's different too. People will see a mum with lots of little children, and “Oh, goodness! How does she survive that? Goodness me!” When people see a mother with these big sons all around them, fine, upright young men, hard-working young men, oh my. There is not one negative thing they can say.
Cassie: I feel like that's why I get more positive stuff. Out here, of course, in Tennessee, there's a lot more larger families, so you get that more frequently.
But yes, exactly. It is hard when you have to teach your child to cook, or to behave. It takes time, but the rewards later on, it's a lot easier. Things are easier when they're well-behaved, and they're good men.
Nancy: Absolutely! It's just a joy. I often say to young mums, when people look at a mum with all her little ones and say, “Oh! Are all these yours?” And I say, “Just beam with joy and say, 'Yes, we love children! Don't you?'”
Well! It gets back on them! Don't they love children? Well, they don't know what to say. They can't say, “No, I don't love children!” They why are they asking me such a stupid question? (laughter)
Well, now you are just having this beautiful twelfth pregnancy, well, you've had more. But your twelfth baby coming. How has that affected your health? Have you found pregnancy has been a blessing and that actually you've even got healthier as you've gone along?
Cassie: I think so. Most of my pregnancies have been pretty smooth. The first two I was stressed a lot and had different issues there, but overall healthy. I've had gestational diabetes once, with the last pregnancy, but overall, yes, the doctor said, “You're healthy, you're strong.” God made me to have babies, and He puts them in there.
Nancy: That's exactly right! And I just want to encourage young mums listening today, and you're hearing about this beautiful mother, having her twelfth baby. And you think, “Oh, how could I ever do that?” But you know. lovely ladies, we, as Cassie just said, we were born to have babies! That's how God created us!
And the blessings are so amazing! I thought I would just, as we're closing, mention some of these blessings that we sometimes forget about. Of course, we go to the Scripture. In 1 Timothy 2:15, where it says that “Women will be saved in childbearing.”
The New American Standard says: “Women shall be preserved through the bearing of children, if they continue in faith and love and sanctity, with self-restraint.” That word, “to be saved, or preserved,” is an amazing word. It's the Greek word sozo. It's actually pronounced as “sode’-zo.” It means, listen to what it means. It means, not just to save, it means “to save, to deliver, protect, heal, preserve, keep safe, and make whole.”
That's the full meaning of that word and that word is used for women. It says: “Women will be preserved, delivered, healed, made whole, through childbearing.” That's not just through giving birth to a child. It's the whole embracing of childbearing, of pregnancy, birthing, and raising and nurturing that child. We will be saved and preserved through that.
It's the same word, exactly the same word when Jesus healed people, when it said: “He made them whole.” Isn't that amazing? When He healed the woman with the issue of blood, Jesus said, “Daughter, be of good comfort. Thy faith hath made thee whole.”
And if you go back to the Greek, the words “hath made” are sozo, and “whole” is sozo. So it comes two times in that same sentence that Jesus said, “I make you whole.” And that's what childbearing does. You are made whole. It's so amazing.
You go on, when Jesus healed blind Bartimaeus. And Jesus said to him: “Your faith hath made you whole.” So it goes on and on. You read so many stories in the Gospels about that.
But I just thought I should remind you again, how, so many of the things, how we are preserved. Oh, I wrote an article on this one. I'll just give you a few little tips just now.
Pregnancy hormones are beneficial to the ovaries. They help to clear pre-cancerous cells from the epithelial lining of the ovary.
Now because older women accumulate more cells than younger women, pregnancy at an older age is such a blessing. Isn't that amazing? So older women can be more prone to getting these pre-cancerous cells, which can grow, but when they conceive and are pregnant, it clears them away. Hallelujah! Isn't that so incredible? It's so amazing!
And then of course, we know how breastfeeding is an antidote to breast cancer. There are so many articles written about that. I don't even need to go into them all. Oh, yes, you know when you feel sick when you're pregnant? You go through that, “I don't know, why do I have to go through this?”
Oh, don't be in despair, ladies. Maybe you're going through this now. It's a good thing, because when you feel this lousy morning sickness, remember that this hormone is gonadotropin. That's the hormone. It's also a hormone that prevents cancer. Isn't that amazing?
So every time you conceive, you get sick, and sometimes even mothers may miscarry later, but they have still been through that time. That is all anti-cancer, that hormone, going through that time. That is amazing. And I love the fact that estriol is one of the three estrogen hormones that we, as women, have. But estriol, this particular one, it elevates 1000 times when we're pregnant. Isn't that amazing?
Yes, oh, goodness me, they have found that this level of estriol that you have during pregnancy, it causes the risk of breast cancer to decrease even 40 years later! Isn't that amazing?
And get this! Estriol is the anti-aging hormone! Wow! Isn't that exciting? Yes, they put estriol in anti-aging creams. You don't have to pay all the money! Just get pregnant! (laughter) Yes! It's so incredible.
Oh, I just watched the YouTube of this woman in Australia. She's 107 years of age! She wasn't all doddering, and they had to help her walking along and with her walking stick. I couldn't believe it! She was walking like some fit woman of about 50! She was amazing! And she had 11 children! And here she is, at 107. She had lots of pep still. She's going great! Isn't that amazing?
Yes, and of course, when you're pregnant, you have glorious oxytocin and prolactin, and all those wonderful things. And progesterone, oh, goodness, that elevates. It jumps to 100 times more when you're pregnant. Yes.
Progesterone guards you from breast cancer, and it alleviates anxiety and depression. It also improves the immune system, builds bones, improves serum, and protects from seizures, decreases allergies, irritable bowel syndrome, and loads of other things. Wow! You just get so blessed when you're pregnant!
In our society, we are told lies. This whole of society is filled with lies. It's just deception and lies. And we've got to get the truth. People are made to think, “Oh, if I had more babies, oh, goodness me, it will be bad on my health.”
It is the opposite! Because your body was created to conceive a child, and give birth, and nurse from your breasts. As you do these things, you have all these glorious blessings, physically, but also emotionally, and spiritually. Yes, but we've run out of time! Do you want to say anything more?
Cassie: Just thank you so much for having me. It's been fun.
Nancy: Oh, it's been so great. I know you've been blessed by Cassie's story. Oh, we'll have to tell you when this baby comes. Oh, thank you, Cassie. Let's pray.
“Dear Father, we thank You that You are a God who loves life. You love babies, You love children. This is Your heart. This is Your plan. You created us female for the privilege, and the honor, and the glory of bringing forth life into this world. And Lord, You give us all the blessings along with it, these physical blessings.
We thank You, Lord God. I pray, Father, that you will bring each one who's listening today into all Your truths. Lord, God, let us be women of truth, rather than being just kind of influenced by the humanistic thinking of this age. We ask it in the Name of Jesus.
I pray Your blessing on every marriage, and every family, and every child. And that we will all, in this hour of deception, walk in Your ways, walk with courage, walk with bravery, walk in the strength of the Lord. In the Name of Jesus, Amen.”
Blessings from Nancy Campbell * www.abovwerubies.org
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